the dating game
today, i shall request the kind help from all my friends to answer a question posed to me recently. “how obvious should someone get before the other person realizes it?”. this is of course in relation to how obvious must you be, to actually get the other person to notice that you are noticing them. confusing eh. let me just draft you some of the “things” attempted by the poor bloke lately:
1) it’s freaking irritating to see him start sms-ing every single time he has the opportunity, to say ‘hi’ to the lady
2) he has offered to send her home now and then. trying to be the valiant knight in shining armour, i presume
3) he has asked her out for lunch countless times
4) has personally attended to her when she was feeling ill and made it a point to go out of his way to show his “caring” side
5) has asked her politely for a movie date
sounds like a doormat, just like me 
admittedly, i’m also curious on your opinions. based on my past experiences, the lady maybe playing it cool, i guess. or, she is just really un-interested. since, i’ve re-joined the rat race, i figured it wouldn’t hurt to start updating myself again on the finer points of courtship and dating. hehe. shan, i think we should start forming a support group of some sort for the “doormat dudes”. i suggest the name, “hopeless anonymous”. so fire away people! Yvy, what do you think? good to hear from the ladies side as well on this.
hrm… sounds like what i’ve done before. well can’t call him a doormat YET but i think its VERY obvious to the lady that he likes her. what more does the girl need him to do? sum girls i think just like to jual mahal. or probably she isnt really interested. but if i was ur fren and i knew she was single, i would NOT give up. go for it. give it more shots. try different things. she might find something attractive about ur fren and give it a go. all the best to .
Doormat dudes? OMG!! We’re sad people Nawooz!! haha.. At least it was a good post so i too can see what ladies really want…
shan, i was guessing along the same lines as well. anywayz, he has been bitchin’ about, ‘tak baik menggoda anak bujang tau". english translation, "it’s not good to mislead a bachelor, ya know". i figured she may also have been putting out the wrong signals or my friend interpreted them wrongly. logic tells me, that she should know his interest in her and just let him know her stand on his advances.
so much speculation…so little female views.
girls are alwiz liddat. damnit i think of what QM does now. alwiz gives me wrong signals so that fall right into her. well now she can fucking dream of such a thing. haha.. Yvy still silent la. not like her u noe. Hrm…
any other ladies comment laaaaaaaaaaaaaa………
maybe Yvy is ‘ONE’ of them??!!!! hahaaha…kidding Yvy…please don’t kill me. i’ll be good, real good. dude, i think QM is a very smart gal. she must be, to be able to put a spell on you.
*ggrrr….looking for that sampam paddle i misplaced to hentam nawooz*
oey…you all arr, tak sabaq-sabaq lar….yioh….ok ok, DA woman is in DA houze…all advice charged by the hour ok?
hhmm….based on my *ahem* knowledge n experience….i really think she’s not interested but dunno how to tell him. at the same time, she’s enjoying the attention - show me a girl who doesnt like attention n i can tell u that she’s a liar.
*i LOVE attention becoz i’m 100% pure hot blooded WOMAN - i’m ALL woman, geddit? heh. :P* and this is NOT ‘gurk power’ pls arr….that’s for kiddies. blek. 
anyway, all i can say to mr. doormat is forget it. might as well spend all that time n attention on someone who appreciates it - just like shan, become QM tempat sapu kaki (sorry dude, the truth always hurts) but i’m glad he’s beginning to see the REAL light.
now as for how obvious you need to get to b noticed. not much really. wat mr doormat is doing is really suffocating. if it were me, i’d be running the other way, man!!! takut siot…
it really doesnt take much for a girl to notice when a guy likes her. just the simplest of gestures is a dead giveaway, no need to hang upside down naked n all. ok?
end of lesson #1. *starts to calculat how much to charge now…tik..tik..tik..*
hmm…Yvy, you have very relevant points there. thanks for the advise. will pass it on and also remember this. remember to buy you a drink if we do meet ya.
now’s my turn… my advise might not be as good as Yvy but i charge differently. heh heh… any valuable advise you pick from here, will be charged per word…
Anyway, i do agree with Yvy that girls just lurrvveee attention man. but it depends on herself as well. for the umpteen times she has been asked to be dated by the *mysterious man*, she didnt fail to turn up, that might show some signs that she’s liking him too. well, probably she isnt sure how to respond but wanting to go out a few more times to give herself more time to think about it. if the man doesnt want to be a *doormat* involuntarily, and hurt himself in the end when results arent to his advantage, probably he should play it cool a little. don’t act too uptight about her all the time. seriously. slow it down… perhaps we can see if the girl would *misss* him calling her or not…
i hope this is something useful. sometimes it might work more when the guy can actually hold on longer till the day, the girl might come back to him and asked the golden question; "why haven’t you been calling/dating me out?"
hmm… should i put a disclaimer to it?
nawooz : can….any shop with best teh tarik will do. tepi jalan oso i dont mind.
blue : yup…u oso got a good point. mr.doormat just trying TOO hard.
all very sound advice. okay, time to review all the tips.
1) chill and quit suffocationg her
2) don’t do nothing stupid and see what happens
in other words, be natural and go with the flow. check, check and check. time to convey this bit of information. thanks to all those, who have contributed your 5 cents. please keep it coming if you still have more wisdom to share.
another thing before i forget….
although she is not interested n dont know how to tell him that, she doesnt want to throw away the friendship that is currently there.
last post b4 i go for my weekend getaway.
blueangel : i’ve moved to http://www.mistyeiz.com. wanted to leave a msg on ur cbox but dunno wats wrong with my network - sick wan….anyway, do drop by, k?
thanks Yvy. just had lunch with the bloke. i’m having a headache now. sigh, back at work on a saturday. time to catch up on my report. enjoy your weekend!
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